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	<title>Comments on: Plone Blows Away Commercial and Open-Source Competition in CMS Watch Review</title>
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		<title>By: zorro</title>
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		<dc:creator>zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh... and yes RedDot is rubbish... unless you want to use it to destroy your project.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh&#8230; and yes RedDot is rubbish&#8230; unless you want to use it to destroy your project.</p>
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		<title>By: zorro</title>
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		<dc:creator>zorro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 02:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve read several of these reports and can tell you that their accuracy is very erratic. Some cmswatch reports are very good but others are so filled with errors that they are worthless and even counter productive. I&#039;m not sure about the reasons, but some packages get an accurate assessment and others not.  These inaccuracies would be less harmful if they were evenly distributed across reviews but they are not. I&#039;ve sent lists of inaccuracies to CMSWatch for the CMS packages I&#039;m very familiar with, but there was no evidence of any attempt to even investigate the errors with me or the CMS supplier, until the next scheduled review (presumably in two years).
Plone is a very good general purpose CMS, it may even be the best, but there are others on that list that are way too high up and yet others that are way too low down. IMO&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read several of these reports and can tell you that their accuracy is very erratic. Some cmswatch reports are very good but others are so filled with errors that they are worthless and even counter productive. I&#8217;m not sure about the reasons, but some packages get an accurate assessment and others not.  These inaccuracies would be less harmful if they were evenly distributed across reviews but they are not. I&#8217;ve sent lists of inaccuracies to CMSWatch for the CMS packages I&#8217;m very familiar with, but there was no evidence of any attempt to even investigate the errors with me or the CMS supplier, until the next scheduled review (presumably in two years).<br />
Plone is a very good general purpose CMS, it may even be the best, but there are others on that list that are way too high up and yet others that are way too low down. IMO</p>
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		<title>By: ihatereddot</title>
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		<dc:creator>ihatereddot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:45:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;yes, RedDot is as bad as this guy states....it is awful, simply awful.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, RedDot is as bad as this guy states&#8230;.it is awful, simply awful.</p>
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		<title>By: harold hampton</title>
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		<dc:creator>harold hampton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting comments. I&#039;ve a question. Our company is looking at purchasing RedDot CMS and came across this review of RedDot CMS.  http://reddot-cms.blogspot.com.  Is it really as bad as this guy says?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting comments. I&#8217;ve a question. Our company is looking at purchasing RedDot CMS and came across this review of RedDot CMS.  <a href="http://reddot-cms.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://reddot-cms.blogspot.com</a>.  Is it really as bad as this guy says?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Stahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Stahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jason-
Heh.  Death of Zope predicted. Film at 11. ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason-<br />
Heh.  Death of Zope predicted. Film at 11. <img src='http://jstahl.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Lefkowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Lefkowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Oh, and I know you&#039;ll appreciate this other snippet from my 2002 post:&lt;/p&gt;

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Zope (cool architecture, but only lets you code in Python, a dead-end language).
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&lt;p&gt;Yes, I said that.  &lt;i&gt;Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.&lt;/i&gt; Not a shining moment in my history as a tech pundit ;-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I know you&#8217;ll appreciate this other snippet from my 2002 post:</p>
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Zope (cool architecture, but only lets you code in Python, a dead-end language).
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<p>Yes, I said that.  <i>Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.</i> Not a shining moment in my history as a tech pundit <img src='http://jstahl.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Lefkowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Lefkowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;All software sucks. That is its nature. Software will always suck. Some of it will sometimes suck slightly less than other software.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Hey, you don&#039;t have to tell &lt;i&gt;me&lt;/i&gt; that, I&#039;m the guy who wrote &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jasonlefkowitz.net/blog1archive/000071.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; ;-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I guess I should just be relieved that it&#039;s been 5 years and Microsoft didn&#039;t end up 0wnz0ring the market with their CMS after all.  But other than that you could take my post and reprint it today and it&#039;d still be accurate.  How sad is that?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>All software sucks. That is its nature. Software will always suck. Some of it will sometimes suck slightly less than other software.</p></blockquote>
<p>Hey, you don&#8217;t have to tell <i>me</i> that, I&#8217;m the guy who wrote <a href="http://www.jasonlefkowitz.net/blog1archive/000071.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> <img src='http://jstahl.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I guess I should just be relieved that it&#8217;s been 5 years and Microsoft didn&#8217;t end up 0wnz0ring the market with their CMS after all.  But other than that you could take my post and reprint it today and it&#8217;d still be accurate.  How sad is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Stahl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Stahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 01:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Jason - heh.  All software sucks.  That is its nature.  Software will always suck.  Some of it will sometimes suck slightly less than other software.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jason &#8211; heh.  All software sucks.  That is its nature.  Software will always suck.  Some of it will sometimes suck slightly less than other software.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Lefkowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason Lefkowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 23:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The real story here is how much the whole market sucks.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real story here is how much the whole market sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marcel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 07:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jon if you agree why do you publish this without any remark?
Looking at the heading you seem to agree with Scott&#039;s findings.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon if you agree why do you publish this without any remark?<br />
Looking at the heading you seem to agree with Scott&#8217;s findings.</p>
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