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	<title>Comments on: Gmail offers IMAP</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Stahl</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2007/10/23/gmail-offers-imap/comment-page-1/#comment-391053</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Stahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mike@2: I agree wholeheartedly.  It would be nice to see better PKI support baked into the servers, because it is a bit too hard to get it going on the client-end for nontechnical users.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike@2: I agree wholeheartedly.  It would be nice to see better PKI support baked into the servers, because it is a bit too hard to get it going on the client-end for nontechnical users.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Stahl</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2007/10/23/gmail-offers-imap/comment-page-1/#comment-391052</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Stahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dave@3:
We&#039;re certainly going to think more seriously about it.  We&#039;ve recommended them (among other options, including EE) in the past, and this certainly removes the one major technical sticking point.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave@3:<br />
We&#8217;re certainly going to think more seriously about it.  We&#8217;ve recommended them (among other options, including EE) in the past, and this certainly removes the one major technical sticking point.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2007/10/23/gmail-offers-imap/comment-page-1/#comment-391051</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:11:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Jon,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So does this mean that you&#039;re going to start recommending this to ONE/NW small clients?  We use Electric Embers and really like them, BTW.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jon,</p>
<p>So does this mean that you&#8217;re going to start recommending this to ONE/NW small clients?  We use Electric Embers and really like them, BTW.</p>
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		<title>By: MikeC01824</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2007/10/23/gmail-offers-imap/comment-page-1/#comment-391047</link>
		<dc:creator>MikeC01824</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;With public key encryption, you don&#039;t have to choose between doing it yourself and trusting someone. Just as Plone can encrypt passwords so that even the webmaster can&#039;t get at them, email can be encrypted so the mail host can access it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t understand why more hosts don&#039;t offer public key encryption. Hushmail is one of the few I know of, and the cost is $2-$3 per user per month, which can be prohibitive. But mostly, email is usually bundled with web hosting, and I don&#039;t know of any web hosts that provide encrypted email.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;At a time when we know telcos are snooping email without a warrant, and members of peace groups (code Pink) get stopped at the border, secure email should be a no-brainer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With public key encryption, you don&#8217;t have to choose between doing it yourself and trusting someone. Just as Plone can encrypt passwords so that even the webmaster can&#8217;t get at them, email can be encrypted so the mail host can access it.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand why more hosts don&#8217;t offer public key encryption. Hushmail is one of the few I know of, and the cost is $2-$3 per user per month, which can be prohibitive. But mostly, email is usually bundled with web hosting, and I don&#8217;t know of any web hosts that provide encrypted email.</p>
<p>At a time when we know telcos are snooping email without a warrant, and members of peace groups (code Pink) get stopped at the border, secure email should be a no-brainer.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan Booth</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2007/10/23/gmail-offers-imap/comment-page-1/#comment-391044</link>
		<dc:creator>Duncan Booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It only seems to be available on some Gmail accounts: I still get the old &#039;Forwarding and POP&#039; configuration screen, no mention of IMAP yet. :(&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Not that it surprises me, a lot of Google&#039;s &#039;new features&#039; seem to dribble out slowly: tabbed homepages was on google.com for ages before it appeared on google.co.uk and even then it appeared and disappeared several times before it became permanent. Also the &#039;embed slideshow&#039; option in Picasa is still only available if your language setting is &#039;English (US)&#039;, not &#039;English (UK)&#039;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It only seems to be available on some Gmail accounts: I still get the old &#8216;Forwarding and POP&#8217; configuration screen, no mention of IMAP yet. <img src='http://jstahl.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Not that it surprises me, a lot of Google&#8217;s &#8216;new features&#8217; seem to dribble out slowly: tabbed homepages was on google.com for ages before it appeared on google.co.uk and even then it appeared and disappeared several times before it became permanent. Also the &#8216;embed slideshow&#8217; option in Picasa is still only available if your language setting is &#8216;English (US)&#8217;, not &#8216;English (UK)&#8217;.</p>
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