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	<title>Comments on: Flexible external redirects in Plone: a brainstorm</title>
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		<title>By: Jon Stahl</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2008/10/02/flexible-external-redirects-in-plone-a-brainstorm/comment-page-1/#comment-393518</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Stahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 01:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ILVC, I&#039;m sorry this isn&#039;t a good support forum for Redirection Tool; please see the plone-users list (http://plone.org/support/forums/general)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ILVC, I&#8217;m sorry this isn&#8217;t a good support forum for Redirection Tool; please see the plone-users list (<a href="http://plone.org/support/forums/general" rel="nofollow">http://plone.org/support/forums/general</a>)</p>
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		<title>By: ILVC</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2008/10/02/flexible-external-redirects-in-plone-a-brainstorm/comment-page-1/#comment-393401</link>
		<dc:creator>ILVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello Again!  I tried version 1.2.1 on Plone 2.5.2  and it crashes the site!  Documentation does not says to work exclusively with version 3.0 but guess I answered that one the hard way.  I then tried version 1.1 since it works on Plone 2.1 it &quot;should work&quot; in 2.5.2 .  It doesn&#039;t no crash the site on installation but redirection simply does not work.   I&#039;ll try to have another test environment with Plone 3.0 and see what I can get.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Again!  I tried version 1.2.1 on Plone 2.5.2  and it crashes the site!  Documentation does not says to work exclusively with version 3.0 but guess I answered that one the hard way.  I then tried version 1.1 since it works on Plone 2.1 it &#8220;should work&#8221; in 2.5.2 .  It doesn&#8217;t no crash the site on installation but redirection simply does not work.   I&#8217;ll try to have another test environment with Plone 3.0 and see what I can get.</p>
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		<title>By: ILVC</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2008/10/02/flexible-external-redirects-in-plone-a-brainstorm/comment-page-1/#comment-393341</link>
		<dc:creator>ILVC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi!  I know I&#039;m a little late into the discussion! I too am looking for solutions to let a user define a custom link, as Joel says and  just found Redirector:http://plone.org/products/redirectiontool.
Doesn&#039;t says anything about query string variables but at least it lets a user define multiple redirection links and thus aliases.  In theory you can define http://somesite/a/long-descent/into/the-bowells-of said-site/prized-link to http://somesite/here-I-am .
Currently we have Plone 2.5.2 deployed and this product is compatible with both 2.1 and 3.0  so I hope it is compatible with 2.5.2 also.  I&#039;ll will  test it and let you know as soon as I can.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi!  I know I&#8217;m a little late into the discussion! I too am looking for solutions to let a user define a custom link, as Joel says and  just found Redirector:http://plone.org/products/redirectiontool.<br />
Doesn&#8217;t says anything about query string variables but at least it lets a user define multiple redirection links and thus aliases.  In theory you can define <a href="http://somesite/a/long-descent/into/the-bowells-of" rel="nofollow">http://somesite/a/long-descent/into/the-bowells-of</a> said-site/prized-link to <a href="http://somesite/here-I-am" rel="nofollow">http://somesite/here-I-am</a> .<br />
Currently we have Plone 2.5.2 deployed and this product is compatible with both 2.1 and 3.0  so I hope it is compatible with 2.5.2 also.  I&#8217;ll will  test it and let you know as soon as I can.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel Davis</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2008/10/02/flexible-external-redirects-in-plone-a-brainstorm/comment-page-1/#comment-393240</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I like it.  I&#039;ve often thought, it wouldn&#039;t be very hard to setup something like tinyurl to run on your own web server.  In Plone, there could be a &quot;make custom link&quot; item in the site setup control panel.  The interface could be as simple as tinyurl&#039;s front page (with the new alias feature).  Just type a full url into a text box, type the alias into a second text box and hit &quot;make it&quot;.  There would be one other button/link on the page: &quot;administer custom links&quot; (or whatever) that would display a grid with checkboxes and a &quot;delete selected&quot; button at the bottom.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Another thought:  how about a variation of the link content type where the default view is a redirect?  You could just put the &quot;external alias link&quot; wherever it belongs in the hierarchy of the site and when a visitor comes to that location, they&#039;re immediately redirected to the external url.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it.  I&#8217;ve often thought, it wouldn&#8217;t be very hard to setup something like tinyurl to run on your own web server.  In Plone, there could be a &#8220;make custom link&#8221; item in the site setup control panel.  The interface could be as simple as tinyurl&#8217;s front page (with the new alias feature).  Just type a full url into a text box, type the alias into a second text box and hit &#8220;make it&#8221;.  There would be one other button/link on the page: &#8220;administer custom links&#8221; (or whatever) that would display a grid with checkboxes and a &#8220;delete selected&#8221; button at the bottom.</p>
<p>Another thought:  how about a variation of the link content type where the default view is a redirect?  You could just put the &#8220;external alias link&#8221; wherever it belongs in the hierarchy of the site and when a visitor comes to that location, they&#8217;re immediately redirected to the external url.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Stahl</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2008/10/02/flexible-external-redirects-in-plone-a-brainstorm/comment-page-1/#comment-393239</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Stahl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:18:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yes, maybe there&#039;s a &quot;both/and&quot; approach.  I&#039;m most interested in making it easy to do simple variableization and, if possible, to have a dedicated subdomain.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, maybe there&#8217;s a &#8220;both/and&#8221; approach.  I&#8217;m most interested in making it easy to do simple variableization and, if possible, to have a dedicated subdomain.</p>
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		<title>By: David Glick</title>
		<link>http://jstahl.org/archives/2008/10/02/flexible-external-redirects-in-plone-a-brainstorm/comment-page-1/#comment-393238</link>
		<dc:creator>David Glick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not convinced.  Having placeful link objects with the improvement proposed in PLIP 126 is the easiest way to implement this without having to create new infrastructure (e.g. some skin-layer-esque abuse of the traversal machinery).  And it has the advantage of making the namespace issue go away because you can&#039;t create link objects with the same id as another object.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Certainly we could add a centralized control panel to view and manage the links in a site, though.  Then you could get a placeful or placeless view as desired.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not convinced.  Having placeful link objects with the improvement proposed in PLIP 126 is the easiest way to implement this without having to create new infrastructure (e.g. some skin-layer-esque abuse of the traversal machinery).  And it has the advantage of making the namespace issue go away because you can&#8217;t create link objects with the same id as another object.</p>
<p>Certainly we could add a centralized control panel to view and manage the links in a site, though.  Then you could get a placeful or placeless view as desired.</p>
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